4. Below is a sampling of three ratings that specifically note the level of clearance required. I laterally converted to (Surface) ET after I did some time on an SSN, had an incident. Currently I'm a GS-13 & have worked as a network/telecom engineer for most of my adult life. To become an Electronics Technician in today’s Navy, there are specific requirements and qualifications to meet: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/. No personally identifying information (PII). A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My experience is that the good techs found jobs easily and the MWR rep who broke everything they touched stayed in and made chief eventually. However, I'll have the opportunity to take the NAPT before I leave to see if I qualify for nuke. ... Navy Nuke (Moderator: Gamecock) Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 50 replies) Very Hot Topic (More than 250 replies) Locked Topic Anyone been through them and can speak to what life is like? AECF is a sweet program. Navy nuclear technicians serve in specialized jobs at sea aboard nuclear-powered ships and submarines and on shore in a variety of general positions. Do not encourage lying. First is that Navy wide there is a belief that Nukes are very smart, but to a fault are more book smart than street smart. Now this is true for every job in the navy but the nuclear navy is under a microscope and any mistake lands much harder on you. They did monthly pass is reviews, when I went through, as well. OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. I've done both, full pipelines, and assigned to sea duty. AECF vs Nuke. The standards for selection for enlistment in the Navy’s NF program are high. Learn to deal, because COB is probably a cone, and probably thinks that them holding up your fish out of malice is funny. I'm currently DEPed as an AECF to ship January 16th. I have no problem with the physicality needed for SEALs. Nuke field- You will get a bonus. Since then, I've been pretty much harassed by seemingly random officers and chiefs trying to get me to go nuke. Got a call from the Navy recruiters who had me as an AECF...They said a bunch of Nuke guys were down there and wanted to talk to me. Sorry. Credentialing is becoming ever more important across the DoD, adding value for Sailors and Marines while they serve and as they transition to civilian life. Interested in Officer programs? Overall, it's a fun job, you'll go through an electronics school in chicago and a secondary school there, after which you will be assigned a specific system. There's a great deal of cultural overlap-expect to get yelled at in an RDCish way (I got it as an EM2 in student status, you'll definitely get it as an SN/SA). If you like AECF, do that. Engineers are often undermanned and over worked and blamed for most problems....nukes are no exception. 2. I think we had 8 room inspections and 3 uniform inspections in "A" school, and 3 of each in power school. Rate equates to military pay grade and rating is one's occupational specialty. Must have normal color perception. Should I stick with AECF or try to go nuke? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. If you let your grades slip you get put on mandatory study times. The Navy divides jobs into E classifications, or rates, from E1-E9, with E-9 being the highest paid and highest chain of command. Lots of cool jobs- The only places that don't have ET's are aviation units, since AT's fill that hole. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. NAVY NUCLEAR FIELD (NF) PROGRAM. If you're in it for the money, Nuke field is te way to go. 8. level 2. Must have normal hearing. There’s tons of material online that can detail a day/career as a nuke. so I can’t speak on that. While you are trying to pass whatever inspection is currently happening you need to stand watch, qualify for the next watch, get your surface or dolphins, maintenance, and find time to take care of yourself (sleep, eat, hygiene). You will get $150/Mo in pro pay, and if you go career it'll go up as you qualify for more senior positions. 6. SEAL vs AECF (wanna-be nuke) Started by badassailor. Do I have a natural affinity for electronics/mathematics/physics, etc? So just consider that once your in and maybe your thinking of later on switching you won’t be able to. AECF. WHEN YOU INVEST IN YOUR COUNTRY, WE INVEST IN YOU. There is a sacred cow level of thinking that high asvab scores should go Nuke. Coners feel entitled to treat you like shit. 31. Many nucs that leave the Navy after their enlistments take up engineering studies in college. Both rates are excellent choices. As a result, it’s one of the highest paying jobs the Navy has to offer. For enlistment into the Navy you must get a minimum ASVAB score of 35. And I mean grueling. 2. I … Do something in the Navy that you will love doing while in the Navy, based off of whatever information is available. The job card for AECF was revised in 2008 said a school for FC was 12 weeks, and ET was 17 weeks. If you like it, do it. The U.S. Navy rating structure is confusing to most people outside the organization. In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships." What They Do . Shit sucks. Got down there...took a test which they helped me on....and then bammo I apparently qualified for the NUKE program of the Navy. Must be between the ages of 18 and 39. so i your ok with that id say aecf it hasnt done me wrong yet. Which do people feel is a better job regarding- free time, job opportunities, level of difficulty. I am now trying to decide between SEAL and AECF. I think the navy convinces people into going AECF because it’s “advance electronic computer field”, although they don’t do anything with computers. Multiple enlistment bonuses can be earned simultaneously, however, the maximum combined enlistment bonus, … Definitely do your research, low quality of life for Nukes. I'm answering this question based on being a former nuke turned Naval Flight Officer turned Naval Aviator and my career of 21 years. This is partly because their 1/2 of the boat actually does stuff other than make steam, and partly because a solid 1/3 of them will be Nuke school washouts. Much slower ascension through the ranks, as a rule- there are always exceptions, but you usually will wear all of your ranks about twice as long as a comparable nuke. You need to ask yourself: could I handle this? The evaluator said I would be going to school for 2 years and serving for 4 afterwards when I was first depped. Am I an exceptional student or could I become one? theres a high chance you'll be working on a radar system either way, but FCs work on advanced weapon systems that ETs dont. My quality of life is far better than the nukes I know. That's about it for ups for AECF. The Navy doesn't seem very keen on keeping us around- if you're looking at this as a potential carer, bring something awesome to the table or be prepared to get sent home mid career. "Electronics" does not only equal "computers.". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Most will believe this for no reason, it’s just tribal opinion. I think the navy convinces people into going AECF because it’s “advance electronic computer field”, although they don’t do anything with computers. Additionally, Selective Reenlistment Bonuses are very limited. Is a ged waiver even possible? A lot of the jobs available after getting out won't pay quite as much, but have far more variety. Basically, either a civilian employer knows what a nuke did and covers most everything they are looking for in an employee or they don't know and are impressed. Downsides: You're in Great Mistakes for your "A" school. That was the only reason I didn't go get my diploma from an alternative high school. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Before I decide anything for absolute certain, can anyone give me some more insight into these two rates? You have all your life to figure out what you want to do. Every NEC has different ASVAB score requirements. Nuke is too. Only two Navy job specialties, called "ratings," are included in the Advanced Electronics/Computer Field: Electronics Technician (ET) and Fire Controlman (FC). High-demand ratings are now eligible to earn bonuses in America’s Navy, and you may qualify for more than one. Depending on the life cycle of the ship you will be working nonstop. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I don't know much about AECF but it seems like I'd like it. Nuke is a low quality of life while you are in, but I'm still reaping the benefits of it now that I am out. The Enlistment Bonus for Source Ratings (EBSR) has added a couple of opportunities, and keeps the Nuclear Power with the highest individual enlistment bonus at $38,000. The secretary at my school has a son who is a nuc and is now in college on an that officer program. A Department of Defense (DoD) security clearanceis required. I didn't know very many people who weren't severely challenged by something in Nuke School. You will get another bonus for reenlisting. You'll be marching, too, which we stopped doing after the 2nd week of Nuke school. Purpose. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. The Navy's Advanced Electronics / Computer Field offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radars, communications systems and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced missile system and he standards … The Nuke family makes up a fundamental ecosystem of tools with a global, industry-wide reach and impact—powering up pipelines, talent pools, and studios large and small. You will get another bonus for reenlisting. Must be a U.S. citizen. You're right next to RTC. I have a little college under my belt, though. America’s Nuclear Navy is one of the oldest and largest nuclear organizations in the world, and has the world’s best safety record of any industry of any kind. I have not made less than $80k a year except for a couple of years when I came into the federal government, since 1998. Which would allow me to become more successful in the civilian world? I was originally going to be enlisting as a nuke, however, my high school grades have held me back, even with waivers. Nuclear Technician Navy Reserve (i) SECNAVINST 5510.30B 1. There are still amazing opportunities out there. You end up as a janitor/FNG for a while after you get to your ship. Room inspections, field days, PI's, all daily or near daily occurrences. ... that didn’t have amazing opportunities after the navy. Press J to jump to the feed. AECF vs Nuke. You'll be wearing your chevron just as soon as mos baby nukes, too-they'll just have another year of school, afterwards. For anything Navy related, not limited to US Navy. I know a lot of prior AECF (fc or et) that didn’t have amazing opportunities after the navy. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. All this work and study you're putting in? Currently,there is no enlistment bonus for the AECF program. im a conventional et and its not a bad gig...neither is being a nuke its all in how you wanna look at it....with aecf you do not get to choose between et and fc remember that no mater what your told their is no choice. Ended up doing my senior year at a local community college where my hs accepted credits... New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Two similar sounding terms are used to describe Navy enlisted status - rate and rating. FC (AEGIS) Career Path General Description. I went back to school in healthcare and got accepted into a very competitive field because a professor knew what a nuke was and had an understanding of the job. Some of my friends are getting through year-one and say they spend 85% of their day in the compound— studying or in class. 7. You can also apply for the BOOST officer program while in nuc school. Downsides: You will work. If you're in it for the money, Nuke field is te way to go. Civilian: I've gotten several job offers after I got out strictly because I was a nuke. Upon completion of initial 7–9 week Recruit Training (known as Boot Camp), those pursuing a Nuclear Operations role report to “A” School for technical training based on their specific job rating, and then move on to acquire advanced nuclear training. From what I have been told about nuke from two people that went through it once your nuke you are definitely not switching rates. Nothing wrong with it, everybody does it, but it's definitely a shock to the system- if you thought you were done studying, yo were wrong, wrong, wrong. Unless you are in your 30s and are running out of time, do not pick a rate based off of perceived experience for after service, unless it fits the above out of sheer coincidence. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). There aren’t many jobs where the power of a nuclear reactor is in your hands. The training and job set me up very well for finishing a BSEE, MSEE after my enlistment. Before you begin your work officially, you have to get through years of grueling schoolwork. In the fleet: Engineers are the first ones on the ship and last ones to leave (CS and BMs on surface ships pending). That's about it, feel free to ask me questions. I didn't know very many people who weren't severely challenged by something in Nuke … Overall it's a great rate, with good opportunities on the outside, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the newtothenavy community. And you live in town, so no room inspections. Fire Controlman. Check out CTN/CTI(CTI requires another test), Damn, sitting here at nnptc, reading this, makes me very happy im here. The Navy’s Nuclear Field (NF) program offers extensive training as nuclear propulsion plant operators and technicians to young men and women with aptitude in mathematics and science. I swore in on Monday for AECF, and scored a 99 on my ASVAB. Answering those questions will help guide your decision. EARN UP TO $40,000 IN ENLISTMENT BONUSES AND $65,000 IN LOAN REPAYMENT WHEN YOU JOIN. Many jobs ask if you either have a degree in X engineering or were part of the nuclear navy. On the other hand, everyone keeps emphasizing the crazy benefits of post-nuke life, but will not really speak to life while enlisted. A Navy nuclear power technician is an enlisted sailor who has received extensive training at the service's Naval Nuclear Power School and its Nuclear Power Training Unit. When I went through, unless you were a fuckup, the pipeline honestly wasn't very military. Must be a member of the U.S. Navy. The last one usually dictates more in your day to day life and your schooling, you may get a short or a long school its random. Hard stop. My hiring manager at the DOE lab I work at hired me BECAUSE of my FC experience. Must have no record of adversely adjudicated drug abuse offenses. I'm assuming your question refers to attrition rates in training only, not through the entire enlistment. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). But not for Nukes. Also what does each job entail exactly. Post Navy, job opportunities are pretty good- lots of place will up your pay for certain quals you only get as a Nuke, and there are lots of non utility options if you want that. The way things have been going, you probably won't see another one while you're in. Nuke field- You will get a bonus. During school: most of your time will be spent studying or in class. Much, much harder than you though possible. The Advanced Electronics Field (AEF), Advanced Technical Field (ATF), and Nuclear Field (NF) Programs provide incentives for enlistment or reenlistment of enlisted personnel in the Navy. A brief overview of Navy enlisted rate and ratings follows. The reason I got a GED is because I'm not really a fan of traditional school. FC Community Overview FC Career Path FC (AEGIS) Community Overview . Prototype, I don't think we had any of either- maybe a seasonal, when we shifted from winter to spring? Any experience here? Before joining the Pacific Fleet, this 610-foot long 15,000-ton behemoth started sea trials in 2015. Nobody is going to advocate for you and your dreams. I have heard that ETs go to school for 2 years, and FCs for only 5 months. Nuke school is NOTHING like traditional school. The Navy's Advanced Electronics / Computer Field offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radars, communications systems and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced missile system, Aegis. Please take into consideration that Nuke school is known for being extremely challenging— for good reason obviously. Enrollment a. Whether it was relearning math, and discovering that the answer was worth a 1/2 point, while the method was worth 7&1/2, or dealing with mando study hours (Even when you had a high GPA, you could be assigned a ton of study hours if your SLPO thought you could do better), or getting to prototype and dealing with shift work and self directed study, everybody had something. Plenty of spelling and grammatical errors. I'm currently listed as AECF and I'm waiting to see if I get clearence for the nuke program. I was a Nuke EM- and I went through the pipeline 8 years ago, but I think most of it is still the same. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! The programs are designed to provide technical or nuclear-trained personnel for naval service. If you are not a fan of traditional school, stay away from nuke! If you can't handle the basics of being a human being, or PT, you will get calibrated, and it will suck worse than you would think is possible (based on what I saw, not from experience). I mean, if you fail out of it you can possibly get another rate lol.... probably the best thing I’ve done is failed out and pretty much told I’m gonna be an IT. The Department of Navy Credentialing Opportunities On-Line (DON COOL) website represents the joint effort, close coordination and shared resources that support the Navy and Marine Corps COOL programs. You will get $150/Mo in pro pay, and if you go career it'll go up as you qualify for more senior positions. Best of luck and trust your gut. (ACNT). I am enlisting in the Navy on Tuesday. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? You will hate the year of schooling before you get to prototype. Posted by 18 days ago. Must ha… When I swore in April 11 of this year they gave me a few job cards, one for AECF and then I asked for more detailed on each rating so the classifier gave me one of ET and FC. I worked on computers all day as AECF. There aren't a whole lot of cool jobs inside the navy for nukes, either- you're either on a boat, teaching at one of the schoolhouses, at a prototype(which is sort of an inbetween job), on a tender/shipyard,or at squadron. FC's are in their own version of the Nuke hole, but they still get bonuses, so screw 'em. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Don’t do either out of prospects for future civilian job. People think of a computer as a desktop pc or a server, but in reality each piece of equipment in a communication system is a computer. 3. Cannot fucking stress this enough. I have no knowledge of AEFC (though I’m sure it’s trying as well!) From a pragmatic view, people will always need to charge their iPods; jobs at a power plant are very secure. Is it accurate to say that ET is the better rate if you want education and skill? Ups: Well, you probably, unless you're a total rock, won't have homework. Everything I find online says the same basic information that doesn't actually tell you anything. I'm currently in DEP I wont leave until May 2010. Nuc is the term for a nuclear engineer; nuke is a nuclear weapon. In addition, you have to score very high on your entrance tests to even be considered for the Navy’s Nuclear program. I'm a CIWS FC, if you go AECF you'll get assigned either ET or FC. Identify what it is you want to do in the Navy and then persue that. I'm a fairly fresh ET1(E6); I have nuke school contemporaries who are up for EMCS(E8) next year. The rating in which an Advanced Electronics/Computer Field candidate is trained is determined in the initial phase of the Advanced Electronics Technical Core Course in Great Lakes, Ill. Secret. [citation needed] Prospective nuclear recruits are then sent to Navy boot camp where prospective nuclear trainees are selected in a 50-30-20 ratio to be trained as nuclear machinist's mates, nuclear electrician's mate, or nuclear electronics technicians. US Navy owns, USS Zumwalt, the largest and most powerful navy ship in the world ever built. The Navy lists one of the requirements for many of their ratings as “Be a U.S. citizen and eligible for security clearance.” but they don’t state what level of clearance is needed. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Each Navy job is given a code known as a Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC). BTW. How should I view it and am I wrong about anything? 6 Replies 5163 Views Aug 20, 2016, 01:46 by Tylor: Topic: going from SWO to SWO(N) Started by elenadudnic83. That's about it. Nukes can get those same jobs, and can get jobs at power plants. Despite being the most massive destroyer, it has stealth technology, having a … Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. AECF's can get some high-paying jobs on the outside. Welcome to DON COOL. It's been pretty relentless. I'm a former ET & have had a great career post navy. Nuke school isnt necessarily difficult, it's just long, boring hours. You'll get an enlistment bonus. AECF is an enlisted Navy program that offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radar, communications systems, and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced Aegis radar and missile system. You will be filled with regret from day 1. According to Glassdoor, a typical Navy Nuclear engineers’ salary is a whopping $91,883. Submarine Duty Incentive pay is a monthly taxable pay for sailors attached to submarine staffs. I generally like some or many of the Navy answers I’ve seen but this one doesn’t seem to have a single clear answer. Now I'm a greenside Comms Tech. Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind. Both are tough, no doubt about it. Hows advancement look like for et and fcs in the upcoming years? 5. Could I spend hour after hour, day after day, for months on end in a secure compound? I got a 97 on my asvab but I didn't qualify for nuke automatically because of my GED. Close. So not the worst but if you are not school orientated it sucks. With all the opportunities you receive to go to college when you're in, or even after you're out, picking a rate that you'll hate purely for the percieved benefit you'll sow in 6 or more years is absurd.